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War In Heaven

The text tells us that there is war in heaven

-- Click To Expand/Collapse Bible Verses -- Rev ch12:v7-12
Rev 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
Rev 12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Rev 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
Rev 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
Rev 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

The time line of Christ's day shows that the devil fell already. When Christ sent out His disciples in pairs He exclaimed on their return that "I beheld satan fall as lightning from heaven". Jesus was exclaiming that the apostles (to whom even the devils were subject in His name) had overcome the devices of satan. Satan is in the text of revelation referred to as possessing a seventh crown with which revelations third woe is concerned.

Michael as the captain of the heavenly host casts satan down from heaven. The stars drawn by satan to form his devices with a "counterfeit product" is shown to be empty - Jesus' resurrection shows that Christ is God and that the 666 system is empty. The shift from the earthly kingdoms of satan to the heavenly kingdom of God is such that the devil and his angels are cast out as not having any more place - the devices of satan are proven to be falsehood.

In the modern time line however it is the devil Himself who is no longer permitted any place before God. This is indicated in verse 11 above, since those that overcame the devil have washed their robes in the blood of the lamb. I.e. Why would satan be heard any longer in heaven to accuse those who overcame (after the resurrection here) if he is cast out? The escape of the angel from the captivity of the modern neo-babylonian church (the least of the flock) has shown that not only does the device have no effect on Christ, but that it has no effect on the least of the flock obeying Christ - and by extension or a well ordering principal, the whole flock itself. Satan truly is fallen.

The devil is cast out to the Earth - indicated in the throne vision by the four beasts. (We see the four seals as the "setting up" of the tail of the dragon - actually three concurrent kingdoms making a fourth, like the fourth beast but comprised of lion, bear and leopard as in Daniel's vision but in the revelation setting.)

His angels are cast out with him, they comprise the third part of the stars - then alluded to in verse 12 as the Earth and the "sea" upon whom the devil is cast down.

However the presence of two wars in heaven fought by Michael in which both time lines are fulfilled separately is tricky - the devil doesn't have "two places to lose" does he? The answer can be found in the war lasting all this time including two fulfillments, (for the last two thousand years), it being one war and Christ's victory with the deliverance of the angel two battles, (though the war was won on the cross.)

How can the kingdom of God come twice? It comes once in Christ. However the salvation and strength is demonstrated in the angel and is the power of Christ shown by saving the least of the flock. We must learn that the heavenly time line is not worldly time. The seals and trumpets overlap with the rest of unity between and preceding them: We can not expect a single war lasting 2000 earthly years to have two separate heavenly events to it. In fact the church age (as it is) is over in the time it takes Christ to open the seven seals, which includes the seven trumpets - the devil is then cast down in this sixth trumpet to be a recipient of God's wrath. Dual time line fulfilment is then plausible.

We see that the two witnesses that follow the angel and preach the strength of salvation for 1260 days are required because not only has Christ been ascended up to heaven in victory, but the angel caught up (for safety) also in dual fulfilment. The angel is no longer present to witness of his work in Christ. So if the least of the flock is raptured, what of the rest? (Close but no cigar satan,.. there is no church rapture.)

It may be possible that the "hour of temptation" the angel is kept from (see Philadelphia letter) is merely the forcing upon him of the mark of the beast, (or the temptation with it.) The angel as the least of the flock must as necessity be kept from this forced mark in order to free under all grace the greater of the flock to refuse it. That satan would certainly and forcibly "mark" the angel under all circumstances implies that he must be necessarily raptured - but though it is true that the mark is not a logical necessity and can be refused - it follows rather that satan requires to mark the least in some sequence, (and therefore all) - of the whole flock. Perhaps the least (angel) just walks through the tribulation without incident: but dual fulfilment may indicate this, that he is to be "raptured".


However there is math (or pseudo-math) to describe these events described in the text. We see that the devil's devices are effective with the removal of the restrainer, that an element of unity supplied is replaced by the empty set {}. The devil then has enough sway with the device to "appear to be an angel of light" in that the remaining earthly elements are similar in operation to a K4 group and also hold correct some basic laws of logical inference.

What we see in this passage that there is war in heaven and that satan is ejected affirms that the dragon may not send an element of the static subgroup to the empty set. (The K4 form of the ultrafilter is unaltered by the devil's devices, Jesus is victorious and this victory stands firm in heaven.)

Whereas we would send unity to {} for a "dialectic logic" device (see creationism area) There is no such empty set in the K4 form. We now see the dragon's devices (shown in the trumpets) are valid on ONLY the earthy elements of the four beasts about the throne of God.


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