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The Son Is Revealed As God -And Glorified In The Father.

Whilst the Jews were incensed that Jesus had called God his Father, they had intended to kill him because he had apparently broken the sabbath. Jesus answering them asserts the same as elsewhere he spoke "I and the Father are one", by describing how the works He does are the works of His Father. That Jesus heals and grants life as the Father does, and that these works since they are of God, and that Jesus said definitively He Himself is God; that He continues to perform these miracles by His Father is proof outright He is no blasphemer. The Father therefore shows all that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, and is God, by His continued works and has all judgement rest with Him to give life or condemn.

This should guide you quite happily through to Jesus' reference to John the Baptist in v33. Here's the passage.

-- Click To Expand/Collapse Bible Verses -- John ch5:v15-47
Joh 5:15 The man departed, and told the Jews that it was Jesus, which had made him whole.
Joh 5:16 And therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, and sought to slay him, because he had done these things on the sabbath day.
Joh 5:17 But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.
Joh 5:18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.
Joh 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
Joh 5:20 For the Father loveth the Son, and showeth him all things that himself doeth: and he will show him greater works than these, that ye may marvel.
Joh 5:21 For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them ; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will.
Joh 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:
Joh 5:23 That all men should honor the Son, even as they honor the Father. He that honoreth not the Son honoreth not the Father which hath sent him.
Joh 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
Joh 5:25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.
Joh 5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;
Joh 5:27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.
Joh 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
Joh 5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
Joh 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.
Joh 5:31 If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.
Joh 5:32 There is another that beareth witness of me; and I know that the witness which he witnesseth of me is true.
Joh 5:33 Ye sent unto John, and he bare witness unto the truth.
Joh 5:34 But I receive not testimony from man: but these things I say, that ye might be saved.
Joh 5:35 He was a burning and a shining light: and ye were willing for a season to rejoice in his light.
Joh 5:36 But I have greater witness than that of John: for the works which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me.
Joh 5:37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.
Joh 5:38 And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not.
Joh 5:39 Search the Scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
Joh 5:40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.
Joh 5:41 I receive not honor from men.
Joh 5:42 But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you.
Joh 5:43 I am come in my Father 's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.
Joh 5:44 How can ye believe, which receive honor one of another, and seek not the honor that cometh from God only?
Joh 5:45 Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.
Joh 5:46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.
Joh 5:47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

Before v33, Jesus proves that by the Witness of God he is the Christ. after v33 he reproves the jews for their unbelief. That many of them received John and many others received John because John was preparing them for Christ. Its a pity they seemed not to like what they received. Sure of themselves in each other's acceptance, and of those their like accept; they rejected Jesus. By what standard did they measure God?

It is hard to say that they measured Jesus by the law, but The covenant of God with Israel is in its simplest form, "If they walk in my commandments and do that which is written for them to do in the law then I will be their God and they will be my people." - It doesn't say that God has to keep the commandments or more importantly the traditions of the jews. When the law is broken and an offender is forgiven does the forgiver break the law because the man is unpunished? Nonsense in itself. That the jews would convict God for healing a man on the sabbath; when they expect much needed rain, or calm seas on the sabbath- is that not nonsense also?

Because Jesus was God Himself, and angered them so much, they rejected Christ because they would not accept the Father. By the law they made their own stumbling block because they did not know Jesus as the Father, let alone the witness of God the Father to Christ as from God the Father.


There is some much needed corroboration to the doctrine of the Holy Trinity in this passage. If you have read the metamath section and understood the model of the trinity as extended from Anselm's argument, then this passage is gold.

Verses 19, 21 & 26 are repeated here.

Joh 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

Joh 5:21 For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them ; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will.

Joh 5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;

Verse 19 echoes that the Father and Jesus do their work in (or through the containing property of) the Holy Spirit, - And in the Holy Spirit they are in agreement. - Likewise the Father and Holy Spirit are interchangeable here.

Verse 21 shows that Jesus may act independently of God the Father and Holy Spirit, most likely because they find agreement in the Son, (The resurrection and the life)

Verse 26 proves that Jesus is God. That Jesus has the power to give up his life and take it up again, that Jesus as God is necessary in Anselm's sense and was with God in the beginning. In the sense of the metamath model, the notes here on verses 21 and 26 should be compared with the knowledge that one of the elements of K4 is K4 itself within the ultrafilter. Could also be compared to C7=GF(8)*, as C3=GF(4)*


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