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Bridegrooms, Garments, Children In Marketplaces

Ok, so I repeat myself upon the same content in Matthew and Mark's gospels, but here are the verses;

-- Click To Expand/Collapse Bible Verses -- Luke ch5:v30-39
Luk 5:30 But their scribes and Pharisees murmured against his disciples, saying, Why do ye eat and drink with publicans and sinners?
Luk 5:31 And Jesus answering said unto them, They that are whole need not a physician: but they that are sick
Luk 5:32 I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
Luk 5:33 And they said unto him, Why do the disciples of John fast often, and make prayers, and likewise the disciples of the Pharisees; but thine eat and drink?
Luk 5:34 And he said unto them, Can ye make the children of the bridechamber fast, while the bridegroom is with them?
Luk 5:35 But the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken away from them, and then shall they fast in those days.
Luk 5:36 And he spake also a parable unto them; No man putteth a piece of a new garment upon an old; if otherwise, then both the new maketh a rent, and the piece that was taken out of the new agreeth not with the old.
Luk 5:37 And no man putteth new wine into old bottles; else the new wine will burst the bottles, and be spilled, and the bottles shall perish.
Luk 5:38 But new wine must be put into new bottles; and both are preserved.
Luk 5:39 No man also having drunk old wine straightway desireth new: for he saith, The old is better.

There are no huge differences in Luke's account of these words from Jesus. However the last verse does not appear in those other accounts. At first glance I am confused, does Jesus say here that the old covenant is better than the new covenant he brings? It would be a total contradiction of new testament teaching if it were so.

Jesus must be referring to himself as the new wine in some way. How does this relate to the verses 30-32? If the righteous are so because of the Law, then they are content with old wine, whereas those sinners who need help are brought new wine by Jesus. The reference to putting new cloth on an old garment is the closest to v39. The key word I think is "desired". The new cloth takes from the old, and makes it appear worse. In like manner the old wine does not agree well with the new, not that it is superior to new wine, but that faced with a choice, a confused palette is the problem.

I thank God that every time I have ever thought there was contradiction in the bible, I am shown my error. My error is to remain confused rather than to search the truth out, in favour of avoiding the idea of considering the word of God flawed. The Answer is simply that no man desires new wine straight away,.. His habits are hard to break, and the Law is what they know - they are slow to understand.

Anyhoo, moving on to the children in the marketplace reference... Here are the verses;

-- Click To Expand/Collapse Bible Verses -- Luke ch7:v19-35
Luk 7:19 And John calling unto him two of his disciples sent them to Jesus, saying, Art thou he that should come or look we for another?
Luk 7:20 When the men were come unto him, they said, John Baptist hath sent us unto thee, saying, Art thou he that should come or look we for another?
Luk 7:21 And in that same hour he cured many of their infirmities and plagues, and of evil spirits; and unto many that were blind he gave sight.
Luk 7:22 Then Jesus answering said unto them, Go your way, and tell John what things ye have seen and heard; how that the blind see, the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, to the poor the gospel is preached.
Luk 7:23 And blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me.
Luk 7:24 And when the messengers of John were departed, he began to speak unto the people concerning John, What went ye out into the wilderness for to see? A reed shaken with the wind?
Luk 7:25 But what went ye out for to see? A man clothed in soft raiment? Behold, they which are gorgeously appareled, and live delicately, are in kings' courts.
Luk 7:26 But what went ye out for to see? A prophet? Yea, I say unto you, and much more than a prophet.
Luk 7:27 This is he, of whom it is written, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.
Luk 7:28 For I say unto you, Among those that are born of women there is not a greater prophet than John the Baptist: but he that is least in the kingdom of God is greater than he.
Luk 7:29 And all the people that heard him, and the publicans, justified God, being baptized with the baptism of John.
Luk 7:30 But the Pharisees and lawyers rejected the counsel of God against themselves, being not baptized of him.
Luk 7:31 And the Lord said, Whereunto then shall I liken the men of this generation? and to what are they like?
Luk 7:32 They are like unto children sitting in the marketplace, and calling one to another, and saying, We have piped unto you, and ye have not danced; we have mourned to you, and ye have not wept.
Luk 7:33 For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine; and ye say, He hath a devil.
Luk 7:34 The Son of man is come eating and drinking; and ye say, Behold a gluttonous man, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners!
Luk 7:35 But wisdom is justified of all her children.

The verses clearly show that John the Baptist's ministry was extremely successful in making Jesus Christ's paths straight. Those that were baptised of John were already led to Jesus, since John baptised for the remission of sins. Those that were prepared for Jesus in this way were already repentant and instructed of John to expect and accept the ministry of Jesus Christ.

Those that were not baptised were either repentant or not, but the emphasis here is on "not". The Pharisees and lawyers deliberately rejected not only John, the works of baptism and Jesus, but also blasphemed the Holy Spirit. They built tombs for the prophets though they are like to those that killed them.. Their attempts to reconcile their failures in calling sinners to repent (v32) led those Pharisees and their generation to think of it as a losing game. - They called John a demoniac and Jesus a sinner, evidence of their opinion that John and Jesus were just as sinful as those they successfully reach. That if the Pharisees etc couldn't do it then God wasn't behind His servants. - Let alone these two "nutcases".

As the passage opens with "Art thou he that should come..." Jesus' reply is to state "look about, what does it look like?" Jesus is effectively saying., "Do not doubt, I (Christ) am right in front of you." Jesus qualifies John as a vessel of honour, which made the crowd feel justified in being present listening to Jesus,.. but Jesus was preceded by John to confirm Jesus' ministry by turning the Fathers to the children, to make His paths straight etc. This was not an act of flattery by Jesus to gain position, but more of a blessing to those whom repented at John's preaching now that a greater than he is here in the person of Jesus.


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